12 – “He does not answer when men cry out because of the arrogance of the wicked.” And before, like, we’re maggots so why should he care that we want answers from him? Again, what others have said before, and it’s not a very good argument. And he says that wickedness and righteousness doesn’t affect anyone but man- so what use is man to god? And why does unending torment meet those who do not prostrate themselves to god? We literally have no effect on him and god just wants his pride stroked? What is the purpose of all this?
36:2 “Bear with me a little longer and I will show you that there is more to e said in God’s behalf.” *cough*on*cough*… Ok, I’ll wait.
37:14-18 – Gotta get to this. So it’s pretty obvious that Elihu (and most likely others from this time) believes that God controls the weather- especially storms and lightning (sounds aaaaaawfully famiilar). But we know that a complicated system is in charge of all that, and people who know how science works see how accurate our weather forecasting can be. Actually, anything that many people blame as gods’ works can be explained pretty well without magical sky pixies of varying dimensions.
And I’m REALLY sick of, god is so huge and and amazing and we’ll NEVER understand him, so suffer through your fate and be happy.
What I do like about this chapter gets pretty well summed up here 36:17-19 – Pretty much, if everything went well for Job constantly, what if he was tempted to sin and falls to the wayside because things have been going so well? With being treated how he is (“with the judgment due the wicked”), he knows what happens to wicked people, and he wouldn’t be so tempted once things go well for him again.
That’s a nice argument, and if all men who were thrust into such a state and ended up righteous when their trials were over then it would even be proven correct. But this is similar to the Death Parade dilemma:
You see, in Death Parade, nonhuman beings called Arbiters judged human souls for either The Void (I guess it’s purgatory or something) or reincarnation. For some reason, it wasn’t enough that human beings have lived full lives before going to the testing grounds where the Arbiters worked, and so the Arbiters had to put the souls of humans through Death Games, judge their reactions and choices, and then decide.
The problem with that (explained pretty phenomenally towards the end), is that the Death Games (which usually pit two souls against each other in a game that would end one or the other’s lives- btw, the souls usually don’t know they’re already dead), may not have been accurate depictions of human souls. I agree.
Like, so many people say, the ‘real’ you comes out when your drink or smoke, or when your life is on the line. Or when all your fortune goes to shit and you’ve got leprosy out the ass and all your people have condemned you. How is this part more ‘real’ than when you’re sober is beyond me. Yes, you can hide feelings and thoughts you don’t want to share if everything is going right. But hiding feelings and thoughts is part of being human, to get along with others, to make society greater and safer. If everyone acted how the ‘really’ wanted to act, it would be chaos, and if we decide to give up our freedom so that the world can be less chaotic, that is as real as any comments spoken aloud in a bar.
Back to the verse, if you’re going to go through bad times anyway so that you don’t take your good times for granted, then there is no need to be good all the time. As many people complain, if you accept god on your deathbed even after killing people and doing awful things, god would forgive you, won’t he?